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Overcoming our Impulses

George Grombacher October 30, 2024


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Overcoming our Impulses

Are you in control of your impulses, or are they in control of you? You can answer that question by looking at your bank account, or your waste line. Right now, Americans are the brokest and fattest they’ve ever been. Changing our futures requires understanding why we’re struggling so much.      

George G talks about what it takes to control your impulses, get back to even, and to start moving in the direction of the life you truly want!

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You know, it’s awesome. You know, it’s really great, acting on impulse, being impulsive, it’s great. It’s awesome. It’s exciting. You’re going out with your friends, and you’re like, oh my god, I’m gonna have the best night of my life. And you do? You have this amazing night, but there is a price to be paid. Yeah, buddy, oh my goodness, there was a price to be paid, and that price is oftentimes a brutal hangover and not enough sleep, or too much sleep, and just not being at 100% or even close to 100% the next day. So the cost of that behavior can be extreme, but that was a big night, that was a great night we’re gonna enjoy and think about forever. Maybe it was worth it, maybe it wasn’t, but acting on impulse is an incredible thing. Think about all the delicious things we like to eat that we know are not supposed to but we still do. Impulse is powerful, and I want to talk a little about today the difference between instinct and impulse, with the idea being that while impulsive behavior is fun, it’s not a winning strategy over the long term. And the what blanket guy that I am, I am interested in personally having the life that I want, getting what I want, all that blah, blah, blah, blah blah, realizing my potential got it. But I’m interested in doing that. I’m also interested in having fun. And I’m not looking for balance. I’m looking for the majority of my behaviors to be aligned with those things that are gonna get me what I what I want, and the minority to be impulsive, blowing off steam, YOLO, all the things. So I don’t want to have FOMO, so engage in behavior. That’s YOLO. It’s been a long time. Are we saying yellow and FOMO anymore? Like we’re probably past that. I should have asked my eight year old what it is that we’re focused on these days. He could have filled the incident of talk about it during the show here. But Hey, so what’s been awesome is acting impulsively. It’s it’s fun. You know, it’s also great. Being number one, being at the top, everybody else behind you, looking up, you’re on top of the mountain. And that’s where we are. That’s where we Americans are. We’re accustomed to being number one, the best top of the world, King of the Mountain. Let’s go. But not always a good thing to be number one, not always, not always good to be on top of the heap. Right now we have the highest levels we’ve ever had, which means the highest levels that any human being has ever had. Right now we’ve got the highest deficit ever, yes, number one right now. We’ve got the highest amount of personal debt ever. Yes, right now we have the highest level of autoimmune disease, of Alzheimer’s, of heart disease, of cancer, of autism. We have the highest level right now of every single chronic disease ever. We are officially number one. Amazing. How could that happen? How could what, what confluence of events could have taken place that would put us the top of the charts for all of these. Believe it’s what I’ve been talking about. It’s impulsive behavior. It’s impulsive behavior, collective impulsive behavior. Why? Well, impulsive behavior is often a lot more fun. It gives us immediate immediate rewards. It gives us dopamine, just main learning that dopamine right in there, buddy, let’s go feel good. So here’s how it works. What is that connection between our dopamine system and instant gratification? Well, the thing about dopamine is that it’s called a neurotransmitter, and it just plays this huge role in our brain’s reward system. It gives us feelings of pleasure and motivation when we’re anticipating something like knowing that I’m going to get this thing that I really want, dopamine increases reinforcing the behavior I think about going through the drive through and getting some delicious food. Just thinking about it makes me feel good, which makes me realize that this was a good decision. So I go so you take action like eating or giving yourself a treat or buying something, just gives you that quick little hit of dopamine. It feels so good. Uh, even though I intellectually understand that I shouldn’t be doing this, this is not part of my diet or whatever. So why else? Why else is impulse so much fun? Because it doesn’t take a lot of effort. It’s a pretty clear path between me want cheeseburger, and me get cheeseburger. It’s fast, it’s effortless, and it’s even more so these days, because I can just hit one button and the thing shows up at my house. So I don’t have to go through the Ben Franklin T thing of of pros and cons. I don’t have to do that not, not going to stress my brain out making an impulsive decision, and that anticipation like I’ve been talking about. It’s almost as good as the thing itself. It is this wave of excitement. It’s a buzz, it’s a high, it’s enthusiasm, it’s all these things. And then there’s a lot of people that think it’s a good idea, if I do these things, I’m getting a lot of reinforcement of my impulsive behavior. Social media tells us that impulsive shopping, or just shopping or consumption is awesome, and feeling that I should engage in self care and I should treat myself, and I deserve this, and this, that and the other thing, I don’t need to tell you this stuff, But

also, there is also just part of an evolutionary case to be made for why it is that we engage in impulsive behaviors. From an evolutionary perspective, it allowed us to make quick decisions and make or take, take immediate action whenever we had that opportunity. So in our brains, that identification of the thing that I want, and then the ability to acquire it quickly, that plays right into my survival instinct back when my brain was being formed, back way back in the day when I found something to eat, a delicious, you know, Apple Tree, something like that. I found an animal that I could easily kill, or maybe it was whatever I found a thing that I could get easily and I take action on it. That’s a positive thing. So it’s not just that dopamine. It’s also linked to that. But why? What about what about delayed gratification? Why isn’t that as much of a pull as following my in following my impulses? Well, long term planning. See, I already lost you, long term planning. Here’s another self control. Does that sound good? It’s long term planning, and self control tastes better than that cheeseburger. Nope. In order to do that, I’ve got to use a different part of my brain, the frontal lobe of my brain, that manages my delayed gratification, because it allows me to focus on future goals, and that part of our brain, it processes rewards in a way more complicated, complex way than dopamine does. Dopamine quick hit. It’s a quick shot. It’s easy. The part of my brain, the frontal lobe, it requires a lot more. We have to take our frontal lobe out for dinner and sing at songs and be really nice to it before we’re going to get the payoff, you know. So it’s just harder. So while acting an impulse brings us instant pleasure, delaying gratification requires patient and concert effort. I just thought, just doesn’t sound like any fun at all. Long term planning sounds like a real drag. Find something on Amazon and getting something on GrubHub that sounds pretty easy and pretty good. Might just throw on some Netflix while I’m waiting for it to arrive at my house. After I hit the button, just hit some more buttons. Just keep keep the impulse going. So what is the difference between an instinct and an impulse? Let’s have a quick conversation about that. Instincts. These are hard wired behaviors. They’re automatic, and they’re there because we needed them to be able to survive, and they are found in the more primitive parts of our brain. You’ve probably heard the term reptilian brain and limbic system. Instincts don’t require conscious thought. They’re actually triggered by an environment or by internal states. So here’s an example. When you touch something that’s hot, body pulls your hand away. It’s the reptilian brain telling you your hand is not supposed to be where it is. So the instincts, it’s the reptilian brain that controls basic survival instincts like running, fight or flight, the limbic system that’s just emotional responses like fear, hunger and attraction, and in daily life, when you react to that thinking in moments of stress or danger, that is instinct kicking in. It’s your body’s natural survival mechanism at work. Now on to impulses. These are about sudden. Urges that might not always be linked to survival. They come from a mix of instinctive and emotional reactions, but are influenced by your neocortex or conscious thought and decision making happens. So an impulse oftentimes feels like it’s a quick urge to do something, but unlike instincts, you can decide to act on them or not. So your body’s giving you a choice, A or B. When you put your hand on the stove, you’re pulling your hand back. You’re just doing that instinctually. So the impulse, it’s like, Hey, I think you want to do this. You want to get Do you want to get the burger? Or do you want to have a salad? Whatever. So here’s an example. You might feel an impulse eat a snack when you see something that looks delicious, even if you’re not hungry. So you walk past the counter, there’s a bullet, M, M’s. I’m not hungry at all, but couple of M M’s, that’d be all right, right now. So you make the decision like I’m really not supposed to but, ah, why not? So again, limbic system is what’s doing that the neocortex that is, those are the things that are doing it. So just to bring this full circle and instinct that is an automatic, automatic action that is linked to survival and impulses, an emotional urge that can be acted upon, or you can suppress it when you think about it. So it is, uh, obviously, obviously, the more we can bring our our long term planning brain in, probably the better off that we’re going to be over the long term, the mid to long term, short term, you’re going to be missing out on that delicious thing. So what is that to do? I talked about how we’re number one. We’re number one in debt, deficit, so that obviously applies to money, and then we’re number one in being overweight and being sick and chronic disease. That’s diet and exercise. So not a surprise that the two most two of the most important things are physical health and our financial health are directly linked to impulsive behavior versus instinctual behavior. What are we even talking about this for? Well, I don’t, I don’t really think it’s a good thing to be number one, and you, I don’t think, think that either. Maybe you’re like, an adult, an odo rules kind of a person. Remember that, oh, Doyle rules like that was from a Happy Gilmore, Billy Madison. Madison, definitely not Happy Gilmore. Anyway, so let’s talk about money first. Let’s talk about the role that impulse plays with poor financial management, specifically debt. So because we know that impulses are usually tied to short term gratification and emotional happiness and desires and dopamine, rather than long term survival. Spending money that’s driven by impulse often happens without deep consideration of future consequence. Shocking. I was awesome at this in my 20s. Perhaps you were too. Maybe you’re still awesome at it now I am less good at it. Now. Used to be really good at it, and I wanted what I wanted when I wanted it. Now I’m reminding myself of my five year old who is going through that severely right now. He wants it and he wants it now. Does not give an F what it takes to get it, just get it. So when it comes to money, impulsive purchases are credit cards, eating out you’re buying fancy clothes that brings you immediate pleasure, but we end up screwing ourselves over because we don’t have the money. We can’t afford it, but we still want it, so we purchase it, and we go into debt, which leads to prolonged suffering, pain, all kinds of bad stuff. We decide that we’re not going to follow our plan, or we don’t even have a plan. We decide we’re going to go over our budget, or off of our budget, or we don’t even have a budget, because having a budget would be like long term planning. And of course, of course, this was me. I absolutely did not keep a budget, didn’t really give a lot of thought to planning, even though I was working in personal finance during the time. How very human of me. Perhaps this is familiar to you as well. So what’s going on in my brain when I’m doing this? Well, it’s the limbic system, and the limbic system is wanting rewards and pleasures, and it really doesn’t care about your long term financial health. So that is how that goes. When it comes to instinctual behavior and debt, your instincts are more about survival and meeting your basic needs. They typically drive behaviors like saving money to ensure stability, and while people might go into debt to meet essential needs. It’s often a necessity rather than a choice. So if you are flat broke and you’re needing to go into debt to meet a housing need, or you have a health care bill that is more out of necessity than it is out of choice. So somebody takes on a debt for essential needs, like paying your mortgage, or you have some kind of medical expense that’s more in line with survival instincts, and that’s less about short term pleasure, more about long term security. But what are some signs of impulsive debt accumulation? Well, it’s frequent use of credit for non essentials. You’re buying fancy clothes, you’re buying new tech, you are going out to eat all the time or happy hour. That was me for sure. I was a happy hour guy, but certainly wasn’t limited to that. I overspent on pretty much every aspect of life. Was dominant at it again, I was number one for sure. And what we know is that oftentimes, more often than not, way more often than not when, when we do this, we’re using high interest credit card, high interest loans of some like personal loans or even paycheck payday loans and junk like that. And

that obviously does not lend itself to financial security or financial success. So if we find ourselves in a place where constant, impulsive spending leaves little room for building savings, leading to financial insecurity, that is the sign that we have a problem. So I’m not a monk. Never taken of poverty. I’m not saying you ought to either, but what I am saying is that we need to get to the point where 90 8980 to 90% of our decisions are on money, are based on good decision making, not impulsive decision making. So there’s a third category here. It’s not just instinct and impulse. I was just very interested in what the difference between an instinct and an impulse was and how that shows up in our lives. Obviously a third categories is just understanding that I have other priorities in my life, beyond just what’s beyond the tip of my nose, beyond just the immediate beyond right now. So that’s what I’m talking about. So when we find ourselves as a nation in credible debt, when we find ourselves as a household or as individuals in incredible debt, it is reflective of impulsive behavior driven by emotional, social desires, rather than instinctual or desires that we have for our long term success in our planning. So we recognize that it’s impulse driven. You can make the choice or start to be more conscious about these things. I talk a lot about Danny Kahneman, Daniel Kahneman, rest in peace and how he talks about Thinking Fast and Slow in a lot of ways, that’s a big part of what this conversation is. The fast part of your brain is 100% impulsive. The slow part of our brain is not necessarily instinctive. It’s just more I’m tapping into that other part of my brain that is all about planning for the future, that is all about long term security versus short term desires, short term pleasure, and those dopamine hits, and I bet you already know, but it’s a lot of the similar stuff when it comes to diet and exercise and being overweight. So the high rate of overweight in obesity here in the United States is absolutely evidence that we have a similar pattern of impulse driven behavior when it comes to diet and exercise. So how does that work? Let’s look at in our impulsive behaviors in terms of the food that we are choosing to eat. And this is not unlike when we are shown mass affluence everywhere we look, be it in our neighborhood and our communities, and without question on the internet, we’re seeing people yoloing and whatever, living their best lives, driving nice cars, wearing nice clothes, having amazing experiences, and I 100% miss out. I feel like I’m missing out. Like, how are they all these people doing these amazing things, and I’m stuck here with this crap with and I’m not doing those things. Well, maybe I should, I should be doing those things too. I I deserve nice things. I want nice things. And this piece of plastic here tells me that I can have them, and I can have them right now also. So same thing happens with diet choices. But again, many foods today are engineered to be super delicious, highly palatable. They’re rich in sugars, fats, salts, which are especially rewarding to that limbic system who buddy brains reward system loves when that goes into my, into my, into my cake hole, or whatever you want to call it. Into my mouth, that’s less fun. So impulsive eating, it’s driven by short term gratification and emotional urges. If I’m stressed out, I’m bored, it’s not that I’m hungry. I’m not satiating my hunger purely by doing these things. It’s I’m stressed out, I’m bored, I’m sad, I’m depressed, whatever. I don’t feel good, so I throw some processed foods in my mouth. Boom. I don’t care about calories at that point or macros, or anything like that. I am stuffing my face because it feels good. So when I reach for a bag of chips or Kit Kat when I’m feeling down, that’s an impulse my limbic system craves, the immediate dopamine hit that these foods give me, but the funnel lobe, that one Boring, boring ass lobe handles self control, doesn’t always step in to say, No, George, what are you doing? You don’t need another cookie. You’ve already had five. Gonna have another one? Really, no thanks, no thanks. Frontal Lobe, go away. Beat it. What about a lack of exercise? What about my sedentary lifestyle? What does that say? Well, instinctively, from an instinctual standpoint, our brains evolve to conserve energy whenever it’s possible. Why? Because it was beneficial when food was scarce. If I didn’t know when I was going to eat next, my brain says we need to hold on to these calories and hold on to this energy. So our reptilian brain is wired to avoid unnecessary exertion when we don’t need to move. So that’s interesting, but today we got all the food that we need. So the instinct to conserve energy is not very helpful, and what it does is it leads to sedentary behavior. It’s no longer keeping me alive, but what it is keep me on the couch, which is not keeping me alive, it’s just keep me on the couch. So in order to overcome that, we need to make conscious, effortful choices overriding that instinct to rest, to be active. So instead of choosing to sit and watch TV and go for a walk, but when I choose to sit and watch that TV or play a video game, it aligns with the instinct of conserving energy. So it’s no longer positive, though I don’t need it. So what about the role of impulse control in today’s world? So sort of to bring more of this full circle, there’s so much cheap, calorie, dense food you marry that with a sedentary lifestyle, super easy to gain weight, our frontal lobes have to work overtime to control our eating habits and encourage movement, which is challenging in a world that has been made to be convenient back in the day, our instincts to eat high calorie foods when they were around. That was a good idea because food was often scarce. So if I find a super high, calorie dense food, I’m going to eat it. But now, with food everywhere, those same instincts can lead to me gaining weight, which is not it’s pretty obvious. So where’s that crossover of instinct and impulse in our modern health. Well, our instincts push us to eat high calorie food and to rest when we can our impulse, the emotional reward of eating these foods or avoiding exercise, compounds the instinct creating a feedback loop it’s real hard to break. So today, to stay healthy, it requires we need to have our strong frontal lobe engaged to manage both the the impulses for unhealthy food and the instinct to conserve energy. So here, here we are overweight, super unhealthy. It’s both an instinct and an impulse problem. Our brains evolved in an environment where overeating and inactivity were not options. When I was roaming, When? When? When prehistoric? George, prehistoric. You when we were out roaming the Plains or whatever, hunting, looking for food over eating and being lazy, that wasn’t an option. So being fat wasn’t a thing. Okay? Got it today. We have a obviously. The opposite is true. We got all the food in the world, and I still want to be lazy, so it makes conscious decision making so much more important, involving all the different parts of our brain, honoring the fact that I want to be a fat kid. I want to be lazy. I want to be relaxed. I want to take care of myself and not hustle too much and not burn out. I. Are balancing that against the fact that here we are. We are the brokest we’ve ever been, we are the fattest that we’ve ever been. We are number one, not beneficial, not additive. Man, isn’t that interesting? I think that that’s really interesting. I think that that is interesting. The thing is, are we able to overcome it? Are we able to overcome it? And I think that the jury’s still out, but I’m leaning towards No, that when just going with it is so much easier than going against our biology, going against our instincts and our impulses and the availability of so much comfort and convenience. I think that we’re in trouble. I think that we are in trouble. And then instead of instead of changing it, then we introduce drugs and pills and shots or whatever that can help us to lose weight. So start for another day. But food for thought,

too soon, way too soon. On the food for thought thing George, come on buddy, something for you to chew on. Oh, I did it again. I did it again. It’s a lot to digest. Yeah, third time, man, I think that with my third child, it’s like the the infinity stones of, uh, dad jokes, just, you know, one on one, getting stronger. I’m getting stronger. All right, of course, the answer is, of course, the answer is, getting really clear in what you want and what’s most important to you, and keeping that just on right in front of your face. We need to remind ourselves constantly of what’s most important, and really keep that absolutely front of mind when we’re making all these decisions throughout the day about what we’re putting in our mouth and how we’re moving our bodies. And none of this is easy at all. Just from a super practical perspective, I know that if I have junk food in the house that I really like, I’m going to eat it. So I can’t keep it in the house, there’s plenty of candy and stuff like that my kids eat, but it’s I don’t like it. I’ve mentioned recently that I really like cookies, love them, like ice cream, but I can’t have those. Can’t have them in the house. I eat them. I eat those things. I don’t eat all of it every week, but I’ll eat on a Friday and Saturday. I’ll eat I’ll eat dessert. It’s really good. So just figure out what do you need to be successful? And put yourself in position to be successful. Think if you have food that you know you’re not supposed to be eating readily available, well then you’re going to eat it. So put some parameters around it again. Keep in mind what I shared, that if we can get that, if we can get to 80% right in our diet and 80% rate on our exercise program, and then we allow 20% as effing off or just not exercising or whatever. I think that that’s fine if you’re in a place where you are in debt, if you are really overweight, well, you need to make some investments to get yourself back to black, because when you’re overweight or you’re broke, you’re you’re you’re in the red. And if I’m in your shoes, because I was, I was 20 pounds overweight and I was very much in debt for a long time. And it takes, not necessarily a Herculean effort, but pretty close. It takes a lot of effort, because we created bad habits for ourselves. But I did it. I got back in shape. I’m in great shape now. I got out of debt. Great financial shape now. So if I can do it, you can certainly do it as well. Just need the right support all that good stuff, but you need to decide, like a lot of that just comes down to that, decide what it is that you want, who it is you want to be, and then work on strengthening that willpower muscle enough and then be conscious of those impulses. Be conscious of your instinct, to find comfort, to conserve energy, to get up, move your butt, eat a little bit less or eat more of good food, as always, do your part. Do. In your best and.

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george grombacher 16:00
So if I want my iPhone, and my Tesla and my Bitcoin to work, we need to get the metal out of the ground.

Pierre Leveille 16:07
Absolutely. Without it, we cannot do it.

george grombacher 16:13
Why? Why is there a Why has production been going down.

Pierre Leveille 16:21
Because the large mines that are producing most of the copper in the world, the grades are going down slowly they’re going there, they’re arriving near the end of life. So and of life of mines in general means less production. And in the past, at least 15 years, the exploration expenditure for copper were pretty low, because the price of copper was low. And when the price is low, companies are tending to not invest more so much in exploration, which is what we see today. It’s it’s, it’s not the way to look at it. Because nobody 15 years ago was able to predict that there would be a so massive shortage, or it’s so massive demand coming. But in the past five years, or let’s say since the since 10 years, we have seen that more and more coming. And then the by the time you react start exploring and there’s more money than then ever that is putting in put it in expression at the moment for copper at least. And what we see is that the it takes time, it could take up to 2025 years between the time you find a deposit that it gets in production. So but but the year the time is counted. So it’s it’s very important to so you will see company reopening old mines, what it will push also, which is not bad, it will force to two, it will force to find a it will force to find ways of recalibrating customer, you know the metals, that will be more and more important.

george grombacher 18:07
So finding, okay, so for lack of a better term recycling metals that are just sitting around somewhere extremely important. Yeah. And then going and going back to historic minds that maybe for lack of technology, or just lack of will or reasons, but maybe now because there’s such a demand, there’s an appetite to go back to those.

Pierre Leveille 18:33
Yes, but there will be a lot of failures into that for many reasons. But the ones that will be in that will resume mining it’s just going to be a short term temporary solution. No it’s it’s not going to be you need to find deposit that will that will operate 50 years you know at least it’s 25 to 50 years at least and an old mind that you do in production in general it’s less than 10 years.

george grombacher 19:03
Got it. Oh there we go. Up here. People are ready for your difference making tip What do you have for them

Pierre Leveille 19:14
You mean an investment or

george grombacher 19:17
whatever you’re into, you’ve got so much life experience with raising a family and doing business all over the world and having your kids go to school in Africa so a tip on copper or whatever you’re into.

Pierre Leveille 19:34
But there’s two things I like to see and I was telling my children many times and I always said you know don’t focus on what will bring you specifically money don’t think of Getting Rich. Think of doing what you what you like, what you feel your your your your your, you know you have been born to do so use your most you skills, do what you like, do what you wet well, and good things will happen to you. And I can see them grow in their life. And I can tell you that this is what happens. And sometimes you have setback like I had recently. But if we do things properly, if we do things that we like, and we liked that project, we were very passionate about that project, not only me, all my team, and if we do things properly, if we do things correctly, good things will happen. And we will probably get the project back had to go forward or we will find another big project that will be the launch of a new era. So that’s my most important tip in life. Do what you like, do it with your best scale and do it well and good things will happen.

george grombacher 20:49
Pierre Leveille 21:03
Thank you. I was happy to be with you to today.

george grombacher 21:06
Damn, tell us the websites and where where people can connect and find you.

Pierre Leveille 21:13
The it’s Deep South resources.com. So pretty simple.

george grombacher 21:18
Perfect. Well, if you enjoyed this as much as I did show up here your appreciation and share today’s show with a friend who also appreciate good ideas, go to deep south resources, calm and learn all about what they’re working on and track their progress.

Pierre Leveille 21:32
Thanks. Thanks, have a nice day.

george grombacher 21:36
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