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IT Careers with Jubee Vilceus

George Grombacher September 8, 2022

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IT Careers with Jubee Vilceus

LifeBlood: We talked about IT careers, why you don’t need to have a background in IT to get into the industry, what the future need is for professionals, and how long it takes to get the necessary skills, with Jubee Vilceus, Founder of Yellow Tail Tech, an org helping people find IT careers. 

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Episode Transcript

george grombacher 0:00
Come on one left, this is George G. And the time is right welcome. Today’s guest strung apart for Juby will see us Juby. Are you ready to do this?

Unknown Speaker 0:18
Yes, I’m ready. Thanks so much for having me. excited to have you

george grombacher 0:21
on. GB is an IT career Genie. He’s the founder of yellow tail tech. They’re an organization that helps train 1000s of people with zero it experience, make major career pivots and successfully land, high paying jobs. God tell us a little about your personal life some more about your work and what you why you do what you do.

Unknown Speaker 0:42
Yeah, thanks for having me again, George. So a little bit of my personal life. So I have a background in Management Information System. And after college, I realized, despite the fact of having a degree in it, I needed something more to be relevant to the job market, I was looking around and found Linux System Administration in general. So after I learned more about Linux System Administration to add an additional layer to my, to my knowledge, a specific set of skills, because that’s what I didn’t have, I had a degree but I didn’t have a specific set of skills to sell to the market. I promised myself and my coach that I will turn this into an actual offering to, to make sure that people are able to take advantage of this. So eight years later, I actually started that and we started our company, and 2016. We kind of started in 2014. A part time and we started formally in 2016. And we specifically focused to on helping people with no IT background, make the pivot into the IT industry. So our programs are intentionally slower. They are they are tailored for people with no IT background, because most program, they accept people with no IT background, but they don’t necessarily design and tailor the program. So people like the background, we’ve taken a slightly different route, by tailoring by attracting by only focusing on people with no IT background. So our program is unique in that sense. And we help people transition. And most people who come to us are people who are on their second career. So that’s that’s what we do we help people with no IT background break into the IT industry.

george grombacher 2:41
Nice. I think that that’s awesome. I’m all about how can we maximize our earning potential, you know, we spent so much of our lives working. So I it makes sense to me that I’d want to make as much money as I possibly can, so long as I’m enjoying the work that I’m doing so. So people come to you or they they they they come across you. I imagine that if I had no IT background, I might be nervous about my ability to learn the information.

Unknown Speaker 3:13
Yes. And most people that’s what happens. They are not sure if are you in the right fit. So that’s what our enrollment advisors spend their time doing is help our prospects evaluate if it’s even a good fit. Because it’s it’s it’s not a transition that is suited for anyone. There are some things we have to look at what you your availability, what are you trying to get out of this. And make sure this is where you’re trying to take your career, your next career. And make sure you understand the potential new work environment, you’re going to be spending a lot of time with your computer, you’re going to most likely especially nowadays be spending that time alone with your computer, because remote work is the new reality. So all these we discuss with our prospects, make sure they understand that yes, there are great advantages with a career that promotes remote work, but there there are some disadvantages as well. So we discuss all that we make sure this is the right fit but one thing I want to make sure everybody knows is that there is actually not only there isn’t well there’s some correlation but it’s an inverse correlation between people with no IT background and people who actually are successful in my program. What I mean is people with no IT background, I have the better success rate with them than someone with some IT background or some IT degree from 10 years ago they come back. I have a better I have a higher success rate with people that have apps A little bit in IT background that come to learn, that are eager to learn something and that come as a blink. And so someone with no IT background, they shouldn’t worry too much. They should just make sure they do it for the right reasons.

george grombacher 5:13
Nice. I think that is a thoughtful and striking, it seems like that’s an appropriate way to think about it. You don’t want to just shoehorn people into your course just, you know, because it’s not going to be a very, very successful experience for anybody with no experience is that just because they come in with with fewer assumptions? And sort of old habits?

Unknown Speaker 5:36
Yes, few assumptions. And not only that, because they also come with no knowledge of the material. They don’t assume if someone has some IT background, they kind of get it. And they think that’s enough. Yeah, I kind of get the concept. So let’s keep moving. But the person with no IT background didn’t want to dive in, they want to understand everything, they want to soak up as much as possible. And this is the attitude that’s necessary. So the person would some IT background, the question everything, the question the process, they don’t put in that much effort into the process. So they they tend to budget. So that’s why we we really insist we don’t push away people with some IT background, but we really make sure they understand and what environment they are stepping into. It’s an environment that slower. Our programs are six to nine months, most other programs similar to ours are three months or less. So we really take more time we give them more support, more time with their instructors. We break down the program and and the longer format. All these it’s because we know that’s what works for someone with no IT background.

george grombacher 7:02
Yeah, that certainly makes sense. So it that’s a that’s that’s a pretty big, big area. So I say yep, this, this sounds pretty good to me. What what are the common if there are common career paths? Or what are the skills that y’all are teaching?

Unknown Speaker 7:18
Great question. Yes, it is very big. And that’s one thing I tell people is that we specifically in only focus on two career tracks, which is Linux System Administration and AWS cloud computing. And the reason why we do that is because we we want to stay in an area where we are subject matter experts, that’s one second, it’s because there are so many ways to get into the industry, we want to lessen the options, the tyranny of choice that might arise when someone is making that decision. So we have two tracks, we make sure the track is fits what you’re trying to accomplish. And then we go in and we put some horse blinders on you. And we help you get to the to the destination. So basically, after you get you finish our program, you know exactly what your job title is going to be you know exactly what you’re going to be doing. The employer who is going to employ you, as well knows exactly what value you are able to add to their environment. So it’s a very specific type of training, that leaves very little to chance. So that’s why we only choose two career tracks.

george grombacher 8:41
makes a ton of sense. So because I know very little about this, what is the difference between those two tracks?

Unknown Speaker 8:49
Yes. So Linux System Administration, Linux is just another operating system. Most people are familiar with their Apple operating system or their windows operating system. These are commercial personal use operating system, if you use a device of any sort. In a smart device of any sort, there is an operating system that ties the physical device to all the application you use it. These are typically iOS or Microsoft, but then enterprise environment, they use enterprise level operating systems. And the most important one is is called Linux. And this is the operating system you find and 90 plus percent of all the servers out there. So Google runs their servers on Linux, Facebook, Instagram, you name it, any big organization you see out there that has a lot Have computing power that they are managing day almost shortly are use Linux. So we train you to become a system administrator that that can go into those environment and help the employers, the companies manage their systems and enterprise level. So that’s the first track. The second track builds on the first. The second track is cloud computing. I’m sure you’ve heard about cloud computing, but most people don’t realize that. AWS, which is the biggest cloud computing platform out there is around 100% on Linux. So So our second track is a continuation of our first track. Because because we are Linux subject matter expert, we stay in that realm of Linux. And we build on it. So you can either choose to become just a Linux system administrator, or you can learn Linux, but add cloud computing to be able to not only help people with their physical Linux servers, but help them manage their infrastructure in a cloud computing environment. Basically, cloud computing is just an abstraction of a real operating system somewhere else. So that’s, that’s, that’s our two tracks. And, yeah, this is where we have a combine our expertise and our team of over 30 years, maybe 40 years even. So we stay there, we design programs around that topic, and we try to stay relevant to the market.

george grombacher 11:43
I love it. So the six to nine month programs, what kind of time our commitment is that on a weekly basis, typically,

Unknown Speaker 11:53
seven to 10 hours is what we we we find as the sweet spot. So someone needs to be able to commit to that minimum of seven to 10 hours a week. So if if that’s not the case for you, this is going to be very difficult to actually accomplish. Yeah, well, it

george grombacher 12:14
seems like I think that that sounds really reasonable. So I imagine most folks are coming, and they’re still working at their other gig as their position.

Unknown Speaker 12:23
Yeah, we cater almost 100% to people with jobs with careers with a family. So all that is taken into consideration, like all our program, all the live sessions are in the evening. Because this is the time we we find that that’s better for most people. Of course, there are people that works at night, but seven to 9pm is where we can catch the most people in general.

george grombacher 12:59
Seems reasonable. So I graduate from the Linux track. Am I then a Linux system administrator? What is the title Linux and money? Well, that’s

Unknown Speaker 13:10
the tricky part. The titles are very loosely used. So there is gonna be the word Linux and your title. But some companies call it Linux System Engineer. The word engineer, for example, is very loosely used. Some are gonna say you are a Linux system administrator or a Linux support technician. So the title itself varies, but the job you will be doing does not vary too much. That’s the first question. The second is the sweet spot for an entry level Linux system administrator is anywhere between 75 and 85. But it depends on how well you did in your interview depends on where you located in the US. There are others. There are some other factors involved. But you should expect something around 75 to 85. That’s your first job. But of course, beyond that, I’ve seen crazy salaries that, of course, they are split for a second job or situation.

george grombacher 14:24
Yeah, certainly. I imagine that this is a career field where it’s going to be growing and there’s an increased need for for human beings to be part of it.

Unknown Speaker 14:34
Oh, yeah. I have a friend who works at AWS. He told me, it’d be us is growing at still still growing at the pace of a startup, meaning 40% year over year, and they plan that to happen in the next five years. So you imagine, basically, another way to put it, the penetration rate for cloud comm Hearing in an enterprise environment, it’s 5% 5%. So yes, there’s a lot of growing to do a lot of growing, there’s a lot of opportunity. And we still we are very much behind in the US, because we are not training enough cloud computing expert to keep up with the demand as it is now. And it’s, it’s growing exponentially, you can imagine what’s going to happen next 10 years.

george grombacher 15:31
Well, let’s, let’s get moving juvie.

Unknown Speaker 15:34
Yes, and also, and also, that’s why I always say, it’s, it’s very important to bring people with no technology background into the mix, because there’s just not enough bodies. You know, learning this, this thing. So if we just rely on a retraining people with IT background or retraining people already in the field of cloud computing, it’s going to take too long, it’s, it’s not going to be enough people. So we have to do this. More people, more companies have to do what I’m doing. In fact, even if I graduated and trained one in new cloud computing experts every day, it wouldn’t be enough. So yeah, we have to get going.

george grombacher 16:18
got more work to be done love it. But you meet the people are ready for that difference making tip, what do you have for them?

Unknown Speaker 16:25
Me The biggest difference. The biggest tip I want to give people around that is that you have to get in this for the right reasons. Don’t get into this new field just because of money. Because you’re going to fall in the same trap as your first career you’re going to love it for a little bit and and not work on the long term. So you have to get on it for the right reason and learn to get into it to the point where you can start enjoying the work. This is the most important thing I’ve seen and and are atheists of existing. Some people just get in because they hear that they can make a lot of money. And this is this is a motivation that dies off very fast. So make sure you don’t do that. Don’t you don’t make that mistake is the advice I have for

george grombacher 17:26
for Well I think that that is great stuff that definitely gets come up. Jimmy thank you so much for coming on. Where can people learn more about you? How can they how can they get involved with yellowtail tech?

Unknown Speaker 17:37
Yellowtail dot tech is the website and you can find us on Instagram yellowtail that tech on Facebook, yo tell that tech anywhere you can just type yellowtail that tech you’ll find us

george grombacher 17:53
if you enjoyed as much as I did, showed up your appreciation and share today’s show with a friend who also appreciates good ideas go to yellow tail dot tech and find out if this could be a good opportunity for you. I’ll list all the all the different places in the notes of the show. Thanks again Juby.

Unknown Speaker 18:11
Thank you, Jeff for having me.

george grombacher 18:13
And until next time, keep fighting the good fight. We’re all in this together.

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