How to Get to Know Yourself with David Schwerin

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Bob Leffler. This is George G. And the time is right welcome today’s guest strong and powerful David square. And David, are you ready to do this? I am reading as you are. Excellent. David has an MBA in finance PhD in religious studies. He’s the author of two books, conscious capitalism, conscious globalism. He’s an editor of seeking truth, a renowned thinker and speaker excited to have you back on the show, David, tell us a little about your personal life some more about your work and why you do what you do. Okay, happy to do that. I just mentioned, I have a third book called Know your soul bring joy to your life, which was published about a year or two ago. So I’ll cover that maybe a little bit more as we go forward. Right now. Well, my career started in finance and investment field several decades ago,

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worked for larger bank and then started my own investment firm. And then I’ve sold my business to start doing some writing.

And all along my interests, besides the world of finance, has been

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to understand ancient wisdom.

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And I’ve received a lot of help in that respect. A lot of mentoring

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points, four years, I’ve been

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getting help from my Spirit Guides and

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and so

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I’m here as we all are to be of service in some way.

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I love it. And apologies, I own and have read your book know your soul. So I don’t know how I managed to leave that off the list. But hey, these things happen. All right. So we are living through interesting times turbulent times? I don’t know if they’re unprecedent or not, what is what is what is on your mind?

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Well,

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we are, as you say, things are a little bit chaotic and upsetting many people.

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what really is the bottom line is we’re out of balance, both socially, environmentally, and financially, to name a few big areas.

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And so we have to get back into balance. And this is going to take time, it took us time to get out of balance and until we

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get

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get reoriented.

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We’re going to live in a sort of a crisis atmosphere, because a lot of people resist making changes. And we all like the status quo, but that doesn’t, that’s not going to work anymore. And so these crises that we’re going through, whether it’s a pandemic, or climate change, or whatever it is, are here to help us to wake up and realize that we can’t continue along the same path, it’s unsustainable.

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So that’s

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a proactive, positive way to look at negative things is this is a teacher and it’s telling us that we are doing things a little bit incorrectly that we are out of balance, and that we can use this as an opportunity to correct course.

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That’s, that’s our opportunity. And so long term, things look bright,

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when we correct course, and

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bring ourselves back into balance. But it’s going to be a rough road until we get to that end the light at the end of the tunnel.

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And, you know, it’s been a long time coming we have we have been missing the boat for a long time are thinking our beliefs have been

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distorted by the misconceptions. And this leads to behavior that

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is not in harmony with the way things really are. So it’s going to take some time to

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reorient and that’s really why I wrote my latest book, know your soul, to help people to know who they are from a deep level. And when you do that, you realize you’re a spiritual being. You’re having a physical experience, whereas most people think it’s the other way around.

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So to the extent that we can reorient our thinking, and put priorities where they belong, we can make the changes that need

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to be made.

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So tell me more about how I go about or how a person goes about reorienting their thinking?

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Well,

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you’ve got to come in sort of with a clean slate, forget a lot as much as you can of what you learned. Because that’s, that’s really the, that’s really the process here is unlearning, rather than learning we, it’s things are really very simple. Life can be very easy and simple. But we’ve complicated it because we’ve brought in misconceptions and wrong thinking.

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We have to look at our beliefs, Are they accurate? What is the truth? Are we really separate beings? Are we all connected?

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To many people still think, even though they are becoming coming around to the idea that everything’s connected, they still act like everything’s separate. And that has to change. We’re all in this together. And if one wants to

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take advantage or gain more than the others, it’s not going to work.

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So we have to do some reading, to understand things better talk to those who have gone through this and have studied and been perhaps mentored, and

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be open to, to new ideas. Right now, there are many people, there are many beings here to help us get through this transition period. But we have to be open to them, we have to be receptive, because we have free will. And if we resist or reject them, there’s no point in getting in the receiving the help that they can give us. So we have to be open and receptive. So that we can receive guidance as to where where we need to change and what we need to do.

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So it’s a question of changing our beliefs, changing our orientation. And

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this is, you know, this is going to take some time, but you can see in our, just in our country, there’s a large divergence between people who are resisting what’s going on and unwilling to accept anyone telling them anything.

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And until that breaks down, and it’s going to break down because of these crises. People no rejected climate change for a long time, even though it was obvious to many,

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until they are affected by severe weather, for instance, then then they begin to say, well, I better pay attention to this, while the same thing is happening in other spheres. And

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we need to pay attention and be willing to be receptive and open to new ideas, new new things. And when we are, we’ll get the help we need.

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So I certainly agree,

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we do find ourselves I find myself

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consuming information about how one side is right and the other side is very wrong.

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And it’s more trying to win. And all of these victories that we’re attempting to win are these small, little battles.

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Although and it seems like nobody’s really keeping an eye on the figurative war, you’re winning the battle, but losing the war and war, when we’re all our throats trying to just pick up little wins here or there, we’re losing sight of the greater picture that we are all in fact, all in this together. And that’s the only way forward and out of the messes that we’ve created is, is coming to that realization.

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And I appreciate reorienting our beliefs and or changing our beliefs and then changing our orientation.

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Tell me more about it. And I think I’m probably going to gonna be asking the same question over and over again, these these beliefs is it what what what are some of them that that that we’ve got to stray from?

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Well, the first and most obvious one is that we’re all separate and

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all do in battle, so to speak, go trying to get the same thing.

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That’s at the root of most things and, and be actually underneath that as fears. We all have a lot of fear. That motivates a lot of what we do.

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fear failure, fear of losing control. And the truth is we have no control. We’re not in control. And that’s good because we don’t see the big picture. We don’t know what is right and wrong and that’s why we have to listen to those

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Who has access to the big picture?

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And, and we’re, you know, we don’t, we don’t agree to that readily.

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So it’s, it’s it is belief in

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that we can do things impatiently, selfishly,

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we can do things that are for that will benefit us, and the hell was everybody else.

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The all these things have consequences, everything we think we say, and we do create our reality. So we have to observe ourselves and see, what are we thinking? What are we saying? What are we doing? Is this? Is this going to contribute to life? Or is this going to cause more problems.

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And that’s actually why I wrote my latest book, know your soul, which is to help people understand who they are, at the deepest level.

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And, and how they’re all connected, and how, and not just in theory, but in actuality,

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so that we can start living that way. So knowing yourself,

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knowing your purpose,

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these are all important that we’re all here to contribute to life in some way. It can be in small ways or larger ways that we’re, that’s, that’s really why we’re here to make a contribution. So you have to look at how am I contributing where what are my skills and talents, so where I can contribute, because that’s where you find your fulfillment? When you contribute it, you really feel good. When you’re taking things selfishly, at some level you don’t. And what goes on the thoughts and beliefs that go on within us, our create our world, you see the tremendous conflicts going on around the world? Well, there are those conflicts within us that are creating that. And so we have to look at ourselves and really

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know what’s happening, what we think most people don’t know why they’re thinking, what they’re thinking, or why they’re doing what they’re doing.

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Which is actually something, it’s startling.

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We would just do things by rote.

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Her instinct takes over, we’re conditioned. And we have to step back and really think is what I’m doing. Gonna bring me the kind of things that I want in the world. It’s just, like, going to make the world a better place, by the way, I’m acting or thinking.

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And most of us, including myself, at times, just go on automatic. And that’s, that’s the crux of the problem that we face.

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you know, get to know yourself better know why, why you do what you do, why you think what you think. And

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you’ll start gradually changing some of your beliefs, some of your actions, and gradually will will bring things back into harmony and back into balance.

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So, hopefully, I answered your question. Yeah.

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These are these, these are big questions. And I think you did a, you did a great job of of helping me to get closer to this.

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I, we are certainly myself on autopilot a lot of the time, why am I doing the things that I’m doing? Why? Why am I choosing to spend my time the way that I am, and a lot of it is just because, well, I need to earn money. You know, I’ve got bills to pay, I need to put food on the table, I need to, you know, do these things. I want to be able to watch football on Sunday, or whatever it is. But when you start asking those questions, it’s like you start peeling the onion, like, Okay, why am I doing that? What do you mean? Why am I doing that? What are what are some of those? Are the questions just that simple? How do we get started? And how do we just sort of go maybe a series of questions I can ask myself, well, you want to observe everything you think everything you do everything you say? And then test those things. Maybe even before you do and before you say them before you do them. Is that what the consequences of my thoughts and words because everything has consequences?

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So being observant of yourself, is the first thing Don’t Don’t worry about other people. They have to work on their own stuff.

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Just

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looking deeply at

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your own actions, your own thoughts, and

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being self critical, so to speak, is this Roy will this create the kind of world that I want

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the create harmony or will create conflict.

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And where you catch yourself where we always know, there’ll be things that we can’t catch yourself on that we, at least

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at first,

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take some time to do this.

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But when you start to look at it, you say, wait a minute,

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this is going to result in things that I don’t want. Let me back up and, and change how I’m approaching this, how I’m acting on behaving.

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Now, that’s when we start to get real, positive

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outcomes. So it’s a process, it takes time we got here, over time, we have to get out of here over time.

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But until we do, we’ll be in crisis mode. And the crisis gets worse as this crisis is not an accident, the pandemic,

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the climate problems,

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they are here to help us to wake us up and to force us to look at things both within us and how that affects everything around us. And to say, you know, is this what I want? Is just making my life better? Do I feel good? I feel fulfilled?

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Is this the kind of life I want from my family?

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So it takes time.

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But it has to start. This is so start yesterday, but we can’t do it yesterday. So we have to start now. And make start making changes, you can start with the environment?

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It because that’s the most

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practical area maybe we can look at

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is what I’m doing sustainable?

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Can I keep using the amount of resources I’m using without it causing problems?

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If I throw stuff away, waste away, will be disposed of in some reasonable manner? Or is it going to is it plastics and other things that are going to be around forever, and it’s going to harm the environment.

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So all types of things that we can do from a very practical standpoint,

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by examining our actions and how they will, what the consequence consequences will be. And is that what we want.

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It’s a really a simple process. It seems complicated, but

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it’s the complications are our own making. Things are simple. If we look at what is out of balance, our finances are out of balance. With most people, a lot of people certainly

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are willing to go into debt to get what they want now, which means they’re not willing to save for it. But that only can continue for so long. Our finances are out of balance and environments out of balance, our social structure is out of balance, that is the widening spread between the haves and have nots. That’s unsustainable, though, you know, we will have major conflicts as a result of that. We keep putting putting it off thinking we can, you know, that’s not our problem. And, but it’s all we’re all connected. So it is our problem. What I do for another I do for myself, and when I fail to do for another I fail to do for myself, said another

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rendition of the golden rule.

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If we follow that, we’ll have a kind of world that we want. And if we don’t, crisis will continue until it forces us to make the changes that need to be changed need to be made.

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That makes sense. examiner actions view the cause, consider view the consequences make change.

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And certainly, yeah, we are. We do go into debt to get the stuff that we want today. And we are so we’re broke. We’re overweight, we’re all exhausted. So it is certainly not working.

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But how extremely human of us, David

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Yeah, we all make mistakes. Being Human, we’re going to make mistakes. But the beauty of this is that

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when the mistakes become extreme, as they have now

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a crisis comes up, that helps us, wakes us up.

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And when we get this critical mass of people who see the light and are willing to step forward and start making the changes, it’ll bring others along. It’s not, it’s not as overwhelming as it seems. Because as more and more people and there are more and more people who are are getting getting the message, as more people get that message, it will encourage others.

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And we have a choice.

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We have free will, we don’t have to, you know, we can continue on our merry way, and see what see what the results are. And we won’t like the results we don’t like, I don’t think we’d like the results at this point. And if we continue doing the same thing, the results will get even more ominous. So we have a choice.

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But enough people are getting the message and starting to make changes. And that will hopefully draw in others. I think it will. And we’ll we’ll write the ship.

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But we have to make we have to start now. And we have to there’ll be some sacrifices

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and some changes that need to be made in your lifestyle. And most people don’t want to do that, understandably.

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But that is necessary.

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That is well said right there.

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continue on this path. Going to continue getting what we’ve always done, but more people are

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are recognizing and the more people that recognize it start to make those changes we will draw in others ship will be righted, sacrifices are required to make it happen. So

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David, thank you so much for coming back on where can people learn more about you? And where can they get a copy of know your soul?

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Sure, well, probably the easiest way is going to my website, which is called Conscious thinking.com CLN SC IO U ‘s conscious thinking.com.

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And there’s links to my book there which can be bought in many bookstores, online or in paperback. Amazon is probably the easiest way to get it but there are others

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and I think people will will begin to understand themselves better and

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begin to make some changes that we need

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well if you enjoyed this as much as I did, so David, your appreciation and share today share with a friend who also appreciates good ideas go to conscious thinking.com How long have you had that URL? David? That’s a really good one. I’ve had it a while

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not giving it up.

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Pick up a copy of Know Your soul I can I can attest to the value that you will get from reading it. So thanks again, David.

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Appreciate your opportunity. And until next time, fighting that good fight because we’re all in this together.

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